Wednesday, April 26, 2006

No Reconquista?

Here are some quotes from some mainstream Hispanics that the mass media fails to mention. From Doug Edelman over at the Intellectual Conservative,

Go back to Boston! Go back to Plymouth Rock, Pilgrims! Get out! We are the future. You are old and tired. Go on. We have beaten you. Leave like beaten rats. You old white people. It is your duty to die… Through love of having children, we are going to take over.

– Augustin Cebada, Brown Berets

They're afraid we're going to take over the governmental institutions and other institutions. They're right. We will take them over . . . We are here to stay.

– Richard Alatorre, Los Angeles City Council

The American Southwest seems to be slowly returning to the jurisdiction of Mexico without firing a single shot.

– Excelsior, the national newspaper of Mexico

We have an aging white America. They are not making babies. They are dying. The explosionis in our population. I love it. They are sh**ing in their pants with fear. I love it.

– Professor Jose Angel Gutierrez, University of Texas

Remember 187 — proposition to deny taxpayer funds for services to non-citizens — was the last gasp of white America in California.

– Art Torres, Chairman of the California Democratic Party

We are politicizing every single one of these new citizens that are becoming citizens of this country. I gotta tell you that a lot of people are saying I'm going to go out there and vote because I want to pay them back.

– Gloria Molina, Los Angeles County Supervisor

California is going to be a Hispanic state. Anyone who doesn't like it should leave.

– Mario Obledo, California Coalition of Hispanic Organizations (and California State Secretary of Health, Education and Welfare under former CA Governor Jerry Brown. Also awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by President Bill Clinton)

We are practicing 'La Reconquista' in California.

– Jose Pescador Osuna, Mexican Consul General

We need to avoid a white backlash by using codes understood by Latinos…

– Professor Fernando Guerra, Loyola Marymount University

These are not radicals, this is mainstream. Anybody have the guts to take them on?


Anonymous Anonymous said...

They're just coming for a better life.

yeah, sure.

2:25:00 PM  
Blogger Seth said...

It's hard to take anything anybody says in the immigration debate seriously when *both* sides are so obviously racist.

10:30:00 PM  
Blogger The Plumber said...

I'm not a racist. Are you?

9:42:00 AM  
Blogger The Plumber said...

BTW, I take these people very seriously.

9:46:00 AM  
Blogger Seth said...

Yes, I am a racist. Anyone who states that they have no racist tendencies is, in my experience, either lying, deluding themselves, or running for office. I'm not proud of the fact, but I recognize that I do have racial prejudices that influence the way I think.

The problem with the present nature of the immigration debate is that those subtle racial prejudices that we *all* have seep through into the rhetoric on both sides of the argument in both subtle and not-so-subtle ways. It may be an unavoidable problem, but it disgusts me that both sides play, consciously or not, into people's racial prejudices in order to score points what should be a rationally conducted debate.

9:52:00 AM  
Blogger The Plumber said...

I've never said anything (or even thought it) that resembles the quotes from mainstream Hispanics. I've never heard any mainstream enforcement advocates say things like this.

You sure use a broad brush. By your logic, since everybody is prejudiced, "a rationally conducted debate" is impossible.

Do you feel guilty for being Anglo? I know I don't. In fact, I never even think about it until I am the object of the blatent racism displayed by people like these mainstream Hispanics and others (like Dave Chappel or Chris Rock).

10:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Lonesnark, I have no idea what you are talking about. If you are not careful, I’ll write you off as an idiot."
Nice, because The Plumber doesn't understand the significance of 1921 he concludes I am an idiot.

The United States of America had complete and open borders before 1921. Anyone from any country, not suffering from disease, could come to America for the price of a boat ticket.

The Plumber insists that "without borders there is no country." We had no "borders" before 1921. Therefore, The Plumber insists that since the U.S.A. didn't have borders before 1921 it was not a country before 1921.

Hell, there was no such thing as a "border guard" before the 1980s. Is America one of the youngest nations on planet Earth?

12:36:00 PM  
Blogger The Plumber said...

The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo established borders with Mexico.

Read my "history" link from this post.

The treaty also establishes rules for citizenship, not that that is important to you.

Secondly, to draw a parallel between the frontier that existed a hundred years ago in the West, and the fully developed societies that exist there now is specious at best. Besides, no president prior to LBJ would allow the situation as it currently exists to continue.

Please lonesnark, you bring nothing to this debate. It'd be best for you to find another site, like I have done vis-a-vis the one in which we met.

2:47:00 PM  

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